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At 2008-12-18 08:24:40 (Central Time) someone wrote:                     (Views: 1720)                Bottom

In a world of crap need advice desperately

Short version: My crazy friend beat the crap out of a teenager in front of me and I'm being asked to testify against him, so now he's threatening to kick my ass too. But if I don't testify, I get charged as an accessory.

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Tolstoy: My friend's youngest sister is a sophomore in high school and at the start of the semester she started seeing a classmate, went to movies and a couple of parties with him, no big deal or so everyone thought. Turns out the little douche then went around and told his friends that she was blowing him in the movie theater and in the back seat of his brother's car, and that she gave a friend of his--who conveniently goes to another school--a beej or two also. Friends told friends, who told other friends, and a couple of purple monkey dishwashers later the word going around the school is that the girl is a slut who will fark anything that moves and pretty much anything that won't move. She stopped seeing the kid, but the damage is done. She's got guys propositioning her and grabbing her ass in the hallway between classes, or even more fun whispering dirty stuff to her in class. And hardest for her almost all her girl friends have stopped speaking to her. A couple of them have even taken to shouting "Whore!" at her whenever they see her. she eats by herself at lunch, cries all the time at home, and feels like she's going to be branded a skank for the rest of her life.

Well, my friend gets the story out of her while he's home for Thanksgiving (he invited me out since my family lives across the country and I have no cash) and he goes through the roof. He gets the kid's address out of her somehow, then on Saturday morning he grabs me and tells me we're going for a ride. Understand that at this point I do not yet know any of the stuff about his sister yet, because he hasn't told me, so I don't have the slightest clue what the eff is going on. He drives us over to the kid's house, won't tell me why we're there, and he parks in the street in front of the house and waits, all crouched down in his seat. I start to get nervous but he tells me to calm down, everything's fine.

So around one o'clock, maybe a little after, the kid comes out of his house and starts down the street. My friend lets him get a little way, then reaches under the car seat, pulls out a farking baseball bat, and gets out. He tells me to wait there, then gets out of the car and runs down the street after the kid ... and proceeds to beat the SHIT out of him with the bat. I don't mean just smacking the little bastard a couple of times to teach him a lesson, either, but serious extended Sopranos shit. He spends about two or three minutes working the kid over, shouts something at him I couldn't hear with the windows up (when I asked him he told me he said "That's what happens to liars who spread rumors!"), then runs back for the car, gets in, and we drive off. As we pull away I notice there's a couple of kids down the block in their driveway, who'd been playing basketball, who must have seen the whole thing. Instant facepalm. I ask him what the hell all this was about, and he tells me--facepalm again. I'm ready to kill him at this point. he tells me not to worry, he'll take care of any problems. I told him I wasn't really thrilled with his troubleshooting skills so far.

Sure enough, two days after we get back to school, the cops haul us both in and I became a guest of the county for a couple of days. My problem solving friend got bailed out by his parents and left my ass there. I had to call my dad and explain things to him--he flew out, bailed me out, and tore me a new asshole. He's threatening to pull me out of school if his tuition money is "going to waste" like that. He bailed me out anyway, but I am in some serious shit with him.

On my way out one of the cops on the case comes up to me and says they're willing to offer me a deal: They know I was along for the ride, and I didn't do anything but just sit there. So if I testify against my friend, they drop the charges, I walk, no harm no foul. If I refuse, I get charged with accessory to felony assault and I'm guaranteed jail time. I tell him I'll think about it. He tells me, "Don't wait too long."

So I get back to school, and I get a call from my former friend, who's apparently out of school till further notice. I guess the cops offered him a plea deal or something and told him that if he didn't take it, my testimony (which I did not agree to give as yet) would put him away for a minimum of five years. So the guy tells me that if I know what's good for me I'll keep my mouth shut, and reminds me that there's "more than one Louisville Slugger" in the world. Then he hangs up.

So, there we go. If I don't testify I'm likely fucked. If I do testify, I'm also likely fucked. What would you do?

------- Updated 2008-12-18 9:09:50 -------

Sounds like the little asshole got exactly what he deserved.
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You think so? Here's what i can remember from what they told me about the kid's injuries:

* Broken right wrist
* Broken left arm
* Both kneecaps shattered
* Broken jaw
* Shattered orbit on his left eye
* 4-5 broken ribs
* Concussion
* Broken nose

... I don't have a whole bunch of sympathy for this kid, but he's going to be in the hospital for weeks, and he may never walk right again. That's some pretty steep punishment for telling some lies and ruining a reputation. I feel bad for the girl and I know she's been emotionally fucked up by this, but Christ. Crippling someone is a bit extreme.

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You have to testify. Clearly this person is a danger to others and needs to be off the streets.

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This is what I keep telling myself. But I'm also scared shitless that before they can take his ass off the streets he'll come up here and do worse to me.


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 frickinsweetQuote      2008-12-18 08:30:07 

Sounds like the little asshole got exactly what he deserved.

You don't have much choice but to testify.

 KarmicHoaxQuote      2008-12-18 08:30:13 

You have to testify. Clearly this person is a danger to others and needs to be off the streets. Hopefully he'll get anger management while locked up.

Do not allow yourself to be intimidated by this person. He is not worth a felony on your record or the jail time. A true friend would be pissed, but also understand, and wouldn't expect you to throw away years of your life for something you didn't participate in.

This is a no brainer. Testify. The end.

P.S. The girl should have gone to teachers or the counselor and reported the sexual harassment at school.

 sparky1013Quote      2008-12-18 08:31:00 

if you don't know what the right thing to do here you're and idiot...

 sparky1013Quote      2008-12-18 08:33:36 

wow. i need more coffee...

what i meant to say was.. if you don't know what the right thing to do here is, then you're an idiot...

 Cordwainer DeathbirdQuote      2008-12-18 08:50:25 

Wow. Your friend doesn't need jail time, he needs to be sedated and put in a frigging straitjacket. And so do you if you don't testify.

 thepersonalgoddessQuote      2008-12-18 09:08:02 

So is the slut sister hot?

 TheAuldTriangleQuote      2008-12-18 09:19:48 

Dude, most likely he'll take the plea. So you won't have to worry about it. Lie to him and tell him about the other kids playing basketball being indicted to. There's no way he'll beat up all of them too. But if that doesn't happen. you have to do it. He'll be in jail for a while you'll graduate and move somewhere he can't find you. Also buy a hand gun.

 kmaaptpsQuote      2008-12-18 09:25:12 

Two things:

1) Testifying is the right thing to do. The kid got more than he deserved.

2) Don't you watch cop shows on TV? Cops can threaten anything they want, and they're playing you two against one another. If you didn't do a crime, there's no "guaranteed jail time." The cops are fucking with you, and you should get a lawyer.

 WhamdanglerQuote      2008-12-18 09:30:01 

With friends like that....

And yes, the cops ARE fucking with you and him both. THEY cannot guarantee shit. A judge and jury decide guilt and punishment. A D.A. offers deals, not the cops.

 WhamdanglerQuote      2008-12-18 09:30:34 

Oh, and my last comment does not imply you should not testify. That asswipe needs to be in jail for a while.

 verntervQuote      2008-12-18 09:41:00 

You know you have to testify...don't subject yourself to more shit because of this moron...just do it and walk away from him forever.

 WhamdanglerQuote      2008-12-18 09:41:42 

One last thought. My best friend was engaged to a woman who was at a party with a guy. As they walked home, she had to pee, so they stopped at a house where the guy she was with knew the woman who lived there. When they went inside, the guy "goes berzerk" and ties the woman up and robs her.

She stood there in shock, but did not flee and did not try to help.

She spent two and a half years in prison.

 tin_manQuote      2008-12-18 09:44:37 

There are no winners, in a game of losers.

 rucaQuote      2008-12-18 09:45:40 

get a lawyer. then testify against your "friend". who is not really your "friend" anymore.

if he gets thrown in jail is he even going to have any money to get bailed out? if not, you have no worries about getting your ass beat.

also what are you, 16? what kind of adult does this/knows people that do this?

 balesQuote      2008-12-18 09:48:00 

you need to testify. its one thing if your friend was up front with you, but he wasn't, which is a real dick move. while i agree the kid deserved a beatin', as you say he did not deserve a beatin' to that extent as you say.

but if you do talk, and he goes away, you'd better get your butt into some martial arts classes and learn how to protect yourself.

 baked beansQuote      2008-12-18 09:54:00 

I know the code..... it isn't followed much anymore as it seems there is no loyalty to anything anymore.

This guy was right in what he did in fucking up the kid.

He was completely wrong in involving you in it.

The right thing for him to do is cop to it and exonerate you. This is the code. "Do your own time."

If he is not willing to do this, then he is not following the code and therefore has no place demanding you do so.

Give him a chance to make it right. Explain it to him.

Then make the deal if you have to. He is no friend. But be aware, this makes you a rat.

 DrWebsterQuote      2008-12-18 09:54:48 

Testify, you dumbass. How is he gonna be able to kick your ass if he's in prison and you're not?

 I_C_WeenerQuote      2008-12-18 10:19:22 

I suggest you make a deal with him. You don't testify against him, and he doesn't testify against you. Then you find your worst enemy and make him do unto them what you've always wanted to.

/Don't do this. Testify and be done with the asshat.

 cattheotherwhitemeatQuote      2008-12-18 10:22:34 

Frickensweet blew me in the back of my car. She also blew me in a movie theatre, and gave my friend a beej as well. You don't know him though, he goes to another school.

 cattheotherwhitemeatQuote      2008-12-18 10:24:24 

also

I feel bad for the girl and I know she's been emotionally fucked up by this, but Christ. Crippling someone is a bit extreme.

Antwan probably didn't expect Marsellus to react like he did, but he had to expect a reaction.

 netweavrQuote      2008-12-18 10:38:57 

Part of being a man is doing things you don't like or that are against your personal best interest. Not because they are the easy thing to do, but because they are the right thing to do.

 cattheotherwhitemeatQuote      2008-12-18 11:49:50 

Wait, are you saying that he should testify, he should not testify, or that his friend was right or wrong to mess up that kid? You read like a fortune cookie!

 netweavrQuote      2008-12-18 12:02:20 

cattheotherwhitemeat: Wait, are you saying that he should testify, he should not testify, or that his friend was right or wrong to mess up that kid? You read like a fortune cookie!

Sorry, I try not to make my personal feelings influence my advice. This action tends to make my advice cryptic.

I'd testify against the guy. I'd view his "friend's" actions as completely in the wrong. There were better ways to handle the situation and the so-called friend is only making things worse. Furthermore, I'd feel that I should have left the car instead of driving away or pulled my "friend" off the kid in the first place.

 Cordwainer DeathbirdQuote      2008-12-18 12:07:39 

Your everlasting patience will be rewarded sooner or later. Something you lost will soon turn up. Your heart is pure, and your mind clear, and your soul devout. Excitement and intrigue follow you closely wherever you go! A pleasant surprise is in store for you. May life throw you a pleasant curve.

 jasonmicronQuote      2008-12-18 13:19:46 

If you don't know what to do here, you're a moron.

All that for spreading typical high school rumors. Holy fuck. You're a dumbass, your "friend" is a dumbass and I hope you both do jail time.

Yes, YOU do jail time. You didn't even TRY to stop the guy. You stupid fuck.

 Dread Pirate SlasherQuote      2008-12-18 13:34:24 

Does the sister have a Myspace?

 jghiloniQuote      2008-12-18 13:56:28 

this is retarded and fake.
just like the douchebag who authored it.

 cattheotherwhitemeatQuote      2008-12-18 14:30:05 

Cordwainer Deathbird: Your everlasting patience will be rewarded sooner or later. Something you lost will soon turn up. Your heart is pure, and your mind clear, and your soul devout. Excitement and intrigue follow you closely wherever you go! A pleasant surprise is in store for you. May life throw you a pleasant curve.

IN BED!

 House of TardsQuote      2008-12-18 14:38:49 

Does your nutbag friend's sister go to high school in 1952? Because I don't believe that the sister would be treated like this in any present day high school.

 sir cumference the flatulentQuote      2009-02-07 06:51:23 

Testify, you dumbass.

 


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